I wonder was the era indicative of a slovenly approach to citing academics and their influence on any particular work. I remember my time at university, and it was, concerning citing works, a very anal process, and any claim to knowledge or influence was to be made with a special kind of religious homage to authors in written assessments, right up and until the point, where lecturers demanded you cite the tree the paper was made from, who pulped the paper and the company that distributed the paper, and then the academics whose works were then transferred to paper, to be slovenly in this process, meant plagiarism was almost inevitable.
It was harder to stay on top of sources in those pre-Internet days. A complete and comprehensive literature search in every relevant language might be difficult, but you could (and Einstein's contemporaries by and large did) at least cite the sources they were reading and on which they relied.
I agree and I understand the differentials that temporal advancement has bore on contemporary academia. In today's university/academic culture, there is no, or little excuse for not citing authors influential in your works, as the internet library is far more extensive and comprehensive than in previous eras, where one may have to travel over national borders, with an interpreter at hand, to access libraries with books or works that were relevant to any research you may be immersed. My post was comedic and ridiculous or a parody version of modern universities and their anal preoccupation with citations, and I agree this must be the case, to the extent we cite authors whose work we have accessed, not the trees, lol, albeit the gravity of citation is made clear, and there can be little room to misunderstand this tenet.
Your post speaks clearly to the tragedy of the human condition. Pride in being first and foremost has afflicted scientists keenly. It should be a shock to no one that such stories exist. Scientists are not pristine and holy workers of some benign man-made religion, despite what some Moderns have deluded themselves into thinking. Ehrenfest's story is deeply tragic, and is of a kind to Boltzmann.
Excellent post. Einstein/Einstotle imo was both a plagiariser and synthesiser. A philosopher and maths torturer. Not a scientist. Relativity is gibberish. I found this new and very disturbing, thanks for this:
"He (Einstotle) advised Ehrenfest to abandon his own Down-syndrome-afflicted son, saying “valuable persons should not be sacrificed to hopeless causes.” Unwilling to do so, yet overwhelmed by the situation, Ehrenfest, recently separated from his wife, shot and killed his son"
Wow. All hail the 'great man'. My brother had downs. They are wonderful creations. and quite smart in many ways. Einstotle, like most philosophers, has a very primitive anti-human attitude in many ways.
Modern scientists are some of the most incompetent philosophers the world has ever produced. Especially those of Current Year Era. May they never venture into other fields such as pure Philosophy or Religion.
'The Science' has a long and ugly history of deceit, fraud, plagiarism, lying, violence, and distortion. Einstotle and friends conjured up the Relativity magic show for a reason. And that reason is never discussed (ie lack of mechanical proofs for a moving Earth pace Michelson and friends).
The location services on a modern phone mostly work through cell tower triangulation (antenna, power, timing, phase). That has nothing whatsoever to do with the GPS service.
Nice photo of Einstein’s Special Relative…
Wow.
What does not need a math background to figure out, Einstein was a moral reprobate
E=mc2 was actually the speed at which he departed Weimar 'smut capital of the world' Berlin in 1933!
A person’s character is like a wheel. Even if it’s only warped in one aspect, it’s understood the whole damned thing is AFU.
I appreciate the in-depth investigative journalism, thank you.
The fraud and deception that has underpinned large sections of physics over the past century is a key reason that science today is stagnating.
I wonder was the era indicative of a slovenly approach to citing academics and their influence on any particular work. I remember my time at university, and it was, concerning citing works, a very anal process, and any claim to knowledge or influence was to be made with a special kind of religious homage to authors in written assessments, right up and until the point, where lecturers demanded you cite the tree the paper was made from, who pulped the paper and the company that distributed the paper, and then the academics whose works were then transferred to paper, to be slovenly in this process, meant plagiarism was almost inevitable.
It was harder to stay on top of sources in those pre-Internet days. A complete and comprehensive literature search in every relevant language might be difficult, but you could (and Einstein's contemporaries by and large did) at least cite the sources they were reading and on which they relied.
I agree and I understand the differentials that temporal advancement has bore on contemporary academia. In today's university/academic culture, there is no, or little excuse for not citing authors influential in your works, as the internet library is far more extensive and comprehensive than in previous eras, where one may have to travel over national borders, with an interpreter at hand, to access libraries with books or works that were relevant to any research you may be immersed. My post was comedic and ridiculous or a parody version of modern universities and their anal preoccupation with citations, and I agree this must be the case, to the extent we cite authors whose work we have accessed, not the trees, lol, albeit the gravity of citation is made clear, and there can be little room to misunderstand this tenet.
Trust the science, but not the scientists?
1. Trust, but verify. Always.
2. Scientific consensus without the ability question it is a lie.
3. Humans do Science, and Humans are a Fallen race.
Your post speaks clearly to the tragedy of the human condition. Pride in being first and foremost has afflicted scientists keenly. It should be a shock to no one that such stories exist. Scientists are not pristine and holy workers of some benign man-made religion, despite what some Moderns have deluded themselves into thinking. Ehrenfest's story is deeply tragic, and is of a kind to Boltzmann.
Excellent post. Einstein/Einstotle imo was both a plagiariser and synthesiser. A philosopher and maths torturer. Not a scientist. Relativity is gibberish. I found this new and very disturbing, thanks for this:
"He (Einstotle) advised Ehrenfest to abandon his own Down-syndrome-afflicted son, saying “valuable persons should not be sacrificed to hopeless causes.” Unwilling to do so, yet overwhelmed by the situation, Ehrenfest, recently separated from his wife, shot and killed his son"
Wow. All hail the 'great man'. My brother had downs. They are wonderful creations. and quite smart in many ways. Einstotle, like most philosophers, has a very primitive anti-human attitude in many ways.
Modern scientists are some of the most incompetent philosophers the world has ever produced. Especially those of Current Year Era. May they never venture into other fields such as pure Philosophy or Religion.
While not an automatic connection it bodes badly for a theory when it is connected to strongly with a person dishonest disreputable character.
In theory (heh) one can be brilliant in one field while being a complete louse.
In theory.
'The Science' has a long and ugly history of deceit, fraud, plagiarism, lying, violence, and distortion. Einstotle and friends conjured up the Relativity magic show for a reason. And that reason is never discussed (ie lack of mechanical proofs for a moving Earth pace Michelson and friends).
Does your phone or car have GPS? That's relativity in action.
Pure sleight of hand.
The geolocation functions work precisely as well without the "relativity adjustment" as with it.
The location services on a modern phone mostly work through cell tower triangulation (antenna, power, timing, phase). That has nothing whatsoever to do with the GPS service.
Okay...so wtf are you sayng?
We'll be going there in a few weeks.
I can think of no one better to lead us there.
With out men of science like you and Mike McCulloch we would know no more about reality than we did 500 years ago
Science, like the US Military, is some cross-section of the population. Good and bad show up here, and no small number of the Gamma persuasion.
The cause of this I've long pondered, with limited success.